"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus, ancient greek philosopher


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anyway, secara ini ranahnya filosofis, memperdebatkan filosofi anda tidak akan ada gunanya dan ujung2nya akan menjadi debat kusir, namun baik adanya jika kita saling menghormati pemikiran satu sama lain

because God impossible to "not able" to do something..then clearly that..God is not willing to prevent evil..
n because God impossible to be malevolent, then maybe we just miss understand "evil", n God have plans..

those were our basic philosophycal difference, I didn't think any of those things are impossible while you limit your opinion in some dogmatic impossibility...

I think we will not fully understand what and who is God until we actually meet God..unless you dont beliefe God..that's another matter..

that's it! if we don't fully understand about a thing, why should limit ourself in some dogmatic view?

so God exist or not?

there's a possibility of both, then even though God do exist, there's a lot more possibility about "what is God", "what God can do", etc

so that is your own dogmatic view..

I think you miss the definition of 'dogma' there

dogma is a belief of something, open question is not dogma dude

to not belief something do exist is the same to belief something don't exist..

to not belief something is impossible is the same to belief something is possible..

I'm sorry, did I say something that implies "I believe God doesn't exist" or "I don't believe God exist"?

nope..

did I say that?

so, you didn't try to response to my dogma definition or explaining what you called as my 'dogmatic view'?

menurutku god able to prevent evil but not willing to do so
kejahatan dibutuhkan karena kebaikan itu ada
coba deh bayangin, begitu pagi hari kebangun liat siaran berita di TV ato Koran
beritanya yang baik2 terus
pasti lama kelamaan boring khan?
ato beritanya berita kriminal terus, pusing khan? (kecuali loe psychopat)
sesuatu itu dibuat pasti mempunyai meaning, tugas kita lah mencari artinya
evil juga dibuat pasti mempunyai arti
note: gw noobies
kalo ada yang salah mohon dikoreksi

Ada jawaban lain sih, god is an ass...
think about it. If god is an asshole, that all of this kinda make sense.