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Penulis Topik: Cinta Sains atau Agama?  (Dibaca 84669 kali)

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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #225 pada: Januari 22, 2010, 01:24:46 AM »
Yang dahulu dituduh pseudo science, sekarang terbukti pakar transpersonal psychology sudah menjadi profesi yang terhormat dan karyanya sudah diterima dalam jurnal ilmiah internasional.

C. Tart seorang profesor dalam bidang tersebut.
But my scientific work, as well as that of many colleagues, has shown me that, properly applied, essential science has actually provided a great deal of support for the reality of some kind of spiritual nature for us, so the suffering that comes from denial and suppression is unnecessary and useless. The main thrust of The End of Materialism is to give readers the kind of data that allowed me to reach a personal resolution where I can be both devoted to science and trying to develop and practice my spiritual side. If two living people, for example, can occasionally demonstrate telepathic communication under tightly controlled laboratory conditions, something we have considerable evidence for, is the idea of prayer, an inherently telepathic kind of communication with someone/something beyond us inherently nonsensical? I don't think so!

Of course there are nonsensical elements mixed in with religion and spirituality: that's true for all areas of human life. But to totally deny our spiritual nature, as science apparently does, harms and inhibits people. Indeed, a deeper look shows that it's not science that denies our spirituality, it's scientism, a rigid philosophy of materialism, masquerading as science.

Baca jurnal transpersonal psychology :

http://www.rebirthing-italia.com/journal.htm
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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #226 pada: Januari 22, 2010, 01:26:37 AM »
Tetap aja PR lama belum dikerjakan...

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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #227 pada: Januari 22, 2010, 10:31:06 AM »
Bentar lagi astrology dan alchemy bakal dimasukin deh.
God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?

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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #228 pada: Januari 22, 2010, 01:58:06 PM »
Pantas saja THL begitugetol mengkampanyekan 'paradigma baru', dengan 'paradigma baru' dia gak perlu pembuktian untuk parapsychology atau pseudo sains lain, sehingga yang tadinya pseudo science bisa naik pangkat karena syarat sebagai sains sudah diperlunak...

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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #229 pada: Januari 22, 2010, 09:20:58 PM »
Ilmuwan yang cinta sains dan agama :

Francis Collins is the Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute, which co-mapped the three billion biochemical letters of our genetic blueprint. He is now a forthright Christian, who converted from atheism at age 27.

’When you make a breakthrough,’ he said, ’it is a moment of scientific exhilaration because you have been on this search and seem to have found it. But it is also a moment when I at least feel a closeness to the Creator in the sense of having now perceived something that no human knew before but which God knew all along. When you have for the first time in front of you this 3.1 billion letter instruction book that conveys all kinds of information and all kinds of mystery about humankind, you cannot survey that book going through page after page without a sense of awe. I cannot help but look at these pages and have a vague sense that this is giving me a glimpse of the mind of God.’

Prof Arthur Shawlow, the 1981 Nobel Prize winner for the development of laser spectroscopy, rationalised his belief thus:

’By being outside of nature, God is also outside of space and time. Hence, at the moment of the creation of the universe, God could also have activated evolution with full knowledge of how it would turn out. Evolution is not incompatible with God having designed it. Once life arose, the process of evolution and natural selection permitted the development of a biological diversity and complexity over very long periods of time. But while evolution may explain some features of the moral law, it cannot explain why it should have any real significance. If it is solely an evolutionary convenience, there is really no such thing as good or evil. But for me, it is much more that that. The moral law is a reason to think of God as plausible - not just a God who sets the universe in motion but a God who cares about human beings.’

And so, when Prof Ragnar Granit of the University of Helsinki, the 1967 winner of the Nobel Prize for the discovery of the visual processes in the eye, was asked: ’How should science and the scientists approach origin questions, specifically the origin of the universe and the origin of life?’ He replied briefly and to the point: ’Humbly'
But the statement which I enjoyed most was from Prof Vladimir Prelog, the 1975 Nobel Prize winner for his research on organic molecules. He said: ’Winners of Nobel prizes are not more competent about God, religion and life after death than other people; some of them like myself are agnostics. They just don’t know. Indeed, my agnosticism goes so far that I am not even certain whether I am an agnostic! I often cite Max Planck, who said: ’God is at the beginning of every religion and at the end of the natural sciences.’ I am also in agreement with the clever rabbi, who during a heated symposium on the existence of God, said in exasperation, ’Look, God is so great that He does not even need to exist!’’

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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #230 pada: Januari 23, 2010, 02:05:56 AM »
Celoteh yang gak menjelaskan apapun... Kepercayaan pribadi seseorang dan penjelasan ilmiah adalah dua hal berbeda.
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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #231 pada: Januari 24, 2010, 12:34:29 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrpPPV_yPY&feature=related

Salah satu quote dari video ini yg menarik perhatian gua,
"when you start basking in the majesty of gods, and then your discoveries stop. It's just stop"

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Re: Cinta Sains atau Agama?
« Jawab #232 pada: Januari 28, 2011, 10:38:52 AM »
Dari awal kurang jelas maunya TS bahas apa. Hanya nulis "Khusus temen2 Hindu" + link ke diskusi di forum lain (yang sudah saya hapus). Lain kali buka topik jangan hanya kasih link, tapi dengan sedikit intro biar ada gambaran jelas mau bahas apa.
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