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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #690 pada: Agustus 26, 2011, 10:15:41 PM »
Ketahui dulu siapa pemimpin tim riset di link yang saya sampaikan di atas.  David Baltimore,  Peraih Nobel th.1975,  dia pula yang lebih dari 20 tahun memimpin tim yang berusaha menemukan vaksin HIV,  tapi gagal total.....(  jangan tanya berapa juta / milyar dolar beaya yang telah dihabiskan  ::) )

Untung gagal.  Kalo gak,  orang-orang yang disuntik dengan vaksin HIV dalam jangka waktu tidak lama akan berstatus HIV positif semua .......... :'(

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #691 pada: Agustus 27, 2011, 02:14:16 AM »
Wel, mau gagal juga mereka masih mendapat data dan fakta yang bisa dipertanggungjawabkan. Bukan yang malah bikin propaganda demi dongkrak penjualan vitamin, dan setelah epidemi meluas malah lepas tangan... ::)

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #692 pada: Agustus 28, 2011, 12:40:11 PM »
Dengan modal awal data dan fakta hipotesa AIDS yang diumumkan ke dunia sains pada tanggal 23 April 1984 bisa dipertanggungjawabkan ??  hohohoho........ :'(

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #693 pada: Agustus 28, 2011, 03:12:38 PM »
Lebih bisa dipertanggungjawabkan ketimbang propaganda partner penjual vitamin kalau AIDS itu karena kurang gizi dsb ::)

Atau mau bawa kaset soak tempo hari lagi? ::)

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #694 pada: September 03, 2011, 12:07:55 AM »
Dengarkan apa yang dikatakan oleh ilmuwan muslim DR. Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati :

Get All the Facts: HIV Does Not Cause AIDS

The AIDS establishments have spent the last twenty years focusing on the HIV and not on the real causes of AIDS. The correct approach for investigating the cause(s) of a disease is by evaluating all medical evidence that considers infectious, chemical, nutritional, and metabolic factors. As a pathologist and a toxicologist, I evaluated the published literature on the worldwide AIDS epidemic and found that HIV does not cause AIDS. In my book “Get All the Facts: HIV Does Not Cause AIDS”, I described the multifactorial causes of AIDS in the world and explained the pathogenesis of AIDS in different risk groups [Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati, 'Get All The Facts: HIV does not cause AIDS' Toxi-Health International, Dixon CA 1999, 183 pages ISBN 0-9673536-0-2]. My findings include:

1) The HIV-hypothesis is not supported. HIV is a harmless virus in both the in vivo and the in vitro settings.

2) AIDS in drug users and homosexuals in the U.S. and Europe is actually caused by the heavy ancillary use of glucocorticoids and other immunosuppressive agents to medically treat the wide range of chronic serious illnesses of the respiratory system, gastrointestinal system, and other organs, malnutrition, release of endogenous cortisol, and opportunistic infections in these persons. The appearance of "AIDS" in the U.S. and Europe has coincided with the approval of glucocorticoid aerosoll use in 1976, the introduction of crack cocaine, the use of heroin by inhalation, and the use of alkyl nitrites by homosexuals to enhance sexual activities.

3) AIDS in hemophiliacs is related to the use of corticosteroids and other immunosuppressive agents to prevent the development of antibodies for factors VIII and IX and to treat other chronic illnesses such as joint disease.

4) AIDS in people receiving blood and/or tissue is related to the use of glucocorticoids to prevent reactions of transfusion and tissue rejection, and to treat other illnesses.

5) AIDS in infants and children is caused by their exposure to drugs and corticosteroids in utero and their exposure to corticosteroids used after birth to treat their chronic illnesses.

6) AIDS in Africa is caused by malnutrition, release of endogenous cortisol, and opportunistic diseases. Atrophy in the lymphoid tissue in people suffering from malnutrition has been known since 1925. Malnutrition causes severe atrophy in the thymus and lymphoid organs and impairs the function of the T cells. These changes are reversible by feeding. The size of the thymus in malnourished children increased from 20% of normal to 107% of normal, following nine weeks of feeding.

7) Kaposi's sarcoma (KS) and lymphoma are induced by the use of steroids and drugs, and the release of endogenous cortisol. They are not caused by a slow virus. KS is reversible upon the termination of treatment with immunosuppressive agents prior to metastasis.

8) The medications currently used to treat patients with AIDS, such as AZT, protease inhibitors, and glucocorticoids, are highly toxic. They can even cause AIDS in asymptomatic patients, and make the disease worse in patients with AIDS. These drugs do not have any therapeutic value, and their use must be discontinued immediately.

9) Damage to the immune system is rapidly reversible after removal of the true insulting agent or treatment of the true causes. For example. a) The CD4+ T cells of 1075 HIV+ pregnant women increased from 426/uL to 596/uL in six months by giving these women a balanced diet. This also improved the outcome of their pregnancy; and b) The reduction in CD4+ T cells in HIV+ homosexuals was also reversed by the cessation of treatment with glucocorticoids.

My findings have been reviewed and supported by scientists and physicians. Below are the links to some of these articles and reviews:http://www.toxi-health.com; http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/11/aids2.htm; http://www.rethinkingaids.com/Archive/2001/index.htm; www.aliveandwell.org/index.php?page=study

http://www.whale.to/a/bayati2.html

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #695 pada: September 03, 2011, 01:38:41 PM »
Kaset soak lagi...Bosaannnn...... ::)

Ada kasus pasien yang salah diagnosa, T-Cell berkurang karena obat, langsung klaim semua kasus HIV/AIDS begitu. Sekalian aja para HIV/AIDS denialis pada nyuntik diri sendiri dengan darah mereka yang didiagnosa HIV positif, liaht sendiri hasilnya ::)
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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #696 pada: September 11, 2011, 01:19:20 AM »
Menyuntik dengan darah mereka yang didiagnosa HIV positif,  yang diambil dari gay pengguna narkoba,  misalnya ?  hohoho.  sama saja dengan menyuntik dengan radikal bebas dan atau dengan ozone. :P

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #697 pada: September 11, 2011, 01:38:59 AM »
Gak ada omong kosong yang lebih bagus?
Kenapa kalau disuntik dengan darah mereka yang gay atau pengguna narkoba, tapi HIV negatif, yang disuntik gak kena HIV positif?

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #698 pada: September 21, 2011, 05:31:46 AM »
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After decades of dashed hopes, AIDS vaccine developers are allowing themselves some cautious optimism. At a conference this week in Bangkok, Thailand, scientists reported molecular clues that help to explain the first-ever success of an HIV vaccine trial in humans (see 'Vaccine protects against HIV virus'). The results could point the way forward for designing future vaccines.

"You might say this is the most successful experiment we've had so far," says Adriano Boasso, an immunologist at Imperial College London.

The study analyzed clinical samples from a previous HIV vaccine trial of more than 16,000 people that has been dubbed the 'Thai trial' but is officially called RV144. In 2009, scientists leading that trial reported that, after three years, people who received the vaccine were about 30 percent less likely to contract HIV than those who got a placebo1.

The modest results marked the first successful human trial of an AIDS vaccine, two years after the high-profile failure of a vaccine produced by the pharmaceutical company Merck. But Thai trial results also left many researchers scratching their heads.
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110916/full/news.2011.541.html

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #699 pada: September 21, 2011, 10:19:08 PM »
Free at last! Chimps caged for 30 years and injected with HIV in cruel experiments finally feel the sun on their faces again.


Like prisoners emerging from a lifetime behind bars, a group of chimpanzees step blinking into the sunlight with what appears for all the world to be a wave and a smile.

And they have much to be joyful about. For this is the first time they have felt grass under their feet and breathed fresh air for 30 years.

Though a few of the chimps were born in captivity, most were kidnapped from African jungles as babies and flown to Europe, where they were locked in metal laboratory cages to be used in a long series of experiments.

 ‘Some chimpanzees were infected with the HIV virus. Of course, they became HIV positive. But none of them, not here in Austria or anywhere else in the world, developed full-blown Aids. Therefore, the programme was useless. It achieved absolutely nothing.’

 Now, Susi, David, Clyde, Lingoa, Moritz and all the others will be free to enjoy the remainder of their lives together, thanks to the unstinting efforts of a 59-year-old conservationist named Michael Aufhauser.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034439/Lab-chimps-freed-caged-fior-30-years-injected-HIV.html

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #700 pada: September 22, 2011, 01:35:15 AM »
Dua artikel soal HIV/AIDS, dan dua-duanya beda banget kualitasnya. yang pertama bicara soal perkembangan penelitian HIV/AIDS, yang terakhir ngoceh soal propaganda lagi... ::)

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Re: HIV cause AIDS?
« Jawab #701 pada: September 28, 2011, 10:19:25 PM »
Mungkin gak ada hubungannya dengan HIV-AIDS,  tapi berhubungan dengan dunia virology dan virologist  :


South Carolina Virologist Charged With Illegal Campaign Contributions, Grant Fraud

 A virologist who worked on biodefense vaccines and was active in South Carolina politics has been charged with making illegal campaign contributions and using research grants to defraud the U.S. government. Jian-Yun Dong of the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston was named in two federal indictments filed 5 months ago and released this week by the U.S. district court in Charleston. Two biotech companies launched and directed by Dong (who is also known as John Dong)—GenPhar and a spinoff called Vaxima, both in Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina—are named as part of a fraud.


http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/09/south-carolina-virologist-charged.html

 

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